I don’t know about you, but I’m after the real thing in worship.

It’s not enough to sing the songs, go through the motions, and feel good about how we executed our plans.

We need God – His nearness, His Word, His voice, His sovereign move.

That’s what I love about Housefires Music. I was joined by Matt Reynolds and Pat Barret for this interview.

Matt is the lead pastor of Grace Midtown and lead visionary for Housefires Music. Pat is the lead singer & songwriter.

Their church is the real deal. Their hearts are the real deal. And this music may be the most powerful thing you’ve listened to all year. No joke. It’s that good.

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When it comes to pursuing Jesus, there’s only one way to come: with boldness. 

We have been given access into His presence by a new and living way. So we come trembling in awe yet with the confidence of sons and daughters.

That’s what I love about the ministry of Kim Walker Smith. She is bold, takes risks, and listens to what the Holy Spirit is saying.

We talk about that as well as Jesus Culture music, her new Christmas album, and about carrying a message, not just talent.

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Sometimes you just have to be honest. You have to strip away the game and get real with God.

As worship leaders we have a tendency to live in a world of comparison, criticism, man pleasing, and self centeredness. But without pure, honest, real hearts of desperation for God, we have nothing.

That’s what I love about this conversation with Clayton Brooks. Clayton is the Worship Pastor at the Oaks Fellowship in Red Oak, Texas.

Clayton’s story is a call to obedience, to face what’s uncomfortable, to be the real thing. You excited to hear this?

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If there’s one challenge every worship leader faces, it’s unifying the generations in worship.

My guest on the podcast this week has a unique perspective on this because he is both a worship leader and a senior pastor.

Dan Dean, from the popular Christian group Phillips Craig and Dean is both a recording artist and a pastor.

In this conversation we talk about the worship leader/senior pastor relationship, connecting the generations, the band, and an amazing story Dan shares from the road.

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When I was first getting started as a worship leader, Tim Hughes was one of the guys I looked up to.

Tim is one of the best worship songwriters I know. Having written Here I Am to Worship, Happy Day, Let it Be Known, and many others, his songs have theological depth and incredibly catchy hooks.

In this interview, Tim and I talk all things Worship Central, prophetic worship, songwriting, embarrassing moments (it’s a good one!), and much more.

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