Welcome to round 2 of the Beyond Sunday Worship Leader podcast!
My goal is to help you grow in the heart, skill, and calling of worship leadership by bringing you practical teaching, expert interviews, and the latest worship resources.
In this episode, I interview Ben Cantelon, worship leader and songwriter with Worship Central in London. Ben has written such great songs as Happy Day, Love Came Down, and Savior of the World.
We talk about the new Worship Central album, “Let it Be Known”, as well as creativity, culture, and songwriting in community.
At the bottom of this post, I’ll show you how you can win one of 10 copies of the new Worship Central album.
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Items mentioned in this post:
– Worship Central’s “Let it Be Known“
– Worship Central Course
– Ben Cantelon’s “Everything in Color
– Nathan Jess’ “I Am Redeemed“
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Matt Brady says
David, another great episode. I appreciated Ben relating the importance of his home life and how that positively impacts his ability to lead worship effectively. That is something we can easily forget with our tendency to take work home with us.
David Santistevan says
Very true, Matt. Something I’m constantly working on.
Henry Shellard says
As a young 18 year old lad hearing about “this generation” always fires me up and is constantly on my mind in one way or another!
Albert says
For me, I most enjoyed the conversation on the importance of creativity. With technology and accessibility these days, there’s a plethora of worship songs out there…yet to be frank, a lot of it sounds all the same. I’m not knocking the message of the lyrics or the spirit/heart of the song. I just want something NEW. John Mark McMillan, Gungor, and the latest album from Hillsong United called “Zion” are such great, different examples of being innovative in their music to glorify God.
Thanks Ben for touching upon the team aspect towards this creativity and David for recording this podcast with him.
Jason Gangwish says
Great advise from Ben about writing in community! We’re exploring this right now – and it is really exciting!! Super exciting about your podcast.
David Santistevan says
Jason, that’s great to hear. Have you started a songwriting group?
Daniel Pape says
Wow this was a great interview! I have been so moved by the music that comes out of the UK from way back in the Delirious Cutting Edge days. To hear Ben affirm how God is continuing to inspire worship from the UK that will shake the world is awesome! Thanks to this podcast our team will be using the worshipcentral.org course in our own team meetings! Thanks for calling this to our attention, and as always. Keep up the awesome work.
David Santistevan says
Thanks, Daniel. And stay tuned for an interview I have coming with Martin Smith from Delirious. Will be great!
Daniel Pape says
Whoa! Looking forward to that one.
Jeremy says
Cool! It’s nice to hear other perspectives
Philip says
Thanks for the sharing this interview!
Really enjoyed learning about Worship Central’s three core values, as well as the heart behind the new album!
Stacy Sublett says
Thanks for this interview with Ben, and the reminder that God is moving in other parts of the world. As my friend from London tells me, Christianity in the UK is a different animal! It’s good to hear Ben’s perspective on what the Lord is doing there, and to know that the Spirit of God is moving in the UK.
Lauren Evans says
This was a great interview. The goal of worship central is awesome this is something we have really been talking about at my church. To be fully equipped that a new sound of worship will be released. I totally agree that people are looking for a fresh sound in worship. The life of a worship leader is just not on Sunday, we have lead my example and to be excited about the one we are worshipping the true and living God. Love the tips on corporate worship leading. Thanks for sharing!
David Santistevan says
Hey Lauren, thanks for the comment. Would love to hear more about what your church is working on!
Lauren Evans says
Hey David,
Our focus right now is finding songs that:
1. declare who God is: Of course when your worship is all God centered and not self centered we turn our attention off of self and what is going on in our lives to just stand in awe of who God is.
2. that engages the people We have a lot of new people coming that do not now Christ so we want worship to capture their hearts and minds that when they leave they will always remember.
3. that are not super wordy: this is for two reason, one we don’t have a projector any more our church was broken into about 2 months ago and all of our sound equipment was stolen so we are still rebuilding our media enhancements. and second we have found that people in our church get so lost in wordy songs. ๐
We have talked about writing our own songs. I have written a few but we have not sang any of them. We just want a fresh sound to flow, so that praise worship and warfare can be released.
Christopher Banks says
I was awoken this morning by a chime on my iphone at the receiving of your email regarding today’s subject of Not Giving Up and wanting to bury our talent. Truly a Word to me from God thru your blog. God never ceases to amaze me. Thanks David.
As to Ben Cantelon, I didn’t know he an that movement were from the UK. I loved the heart I learned about him and what he and is church are trying to accomplish. I am impressed with all the church movement who have the local church as their focus. Nothing is more important than the local church. I loved the equipping ideas they have towards raising up others and discipleship in the music ministry. They’re focused and passionate. It inspires me. God knew what I had need of before I asked this morning. As always, I appreciate you Dave and what you are doing for the Kingdom. Blessings!
David Santistevan says
That is awesome to hear, Christopher! I apologize if I woke you up from a deep sleep ๐
Ron Bond says
Enjoyed the interview. Keep up the goof work!
Blessings!
Ron Bond says
Good! Sorry about that.
David Santistevan says
Hahaha! I like “goof” better. It’s more accurate ๐
Sean Gasperetti says
Awesome podcast! Love the interview. 25 min. is perfect for my drive time!
David Santistevan says
Sean, that’s my goal with these podcasts. Many of the ones I listen to are 45 minutes to an hour and it feels too long. I like the 15-25 time better.
Neal says
I enjoyed hearing what Worship Central is about.
Kris says
Great interview! I loved hearing about songwriting in community. I would love to hear more about the nuts and bolts of group writing… how different teams do it. Do you sit around and just come up with every line from scratch? Or is it more one person bringing a song they’ve started and then collaborating on it with the group? I’m sure every team is different, but I’d love to see some tried and true methods that have worked well.
David Santistevan says
Kris, I’ve found that group writing is always better when people come with ideas. It’s also more effective to break up into small groups of 2-3 tops at a time. Too many people at once can stifle creativity. I think a lot of great songs have more than 3 writers, but they probably all work on it at different times.
Wayne Steed says
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this subject. I believe this can happen to anyone if they begin to respect the opinions of others more than they respect God’s opinion. Your statements are right on – thanks for the encouragement!
Josh Raine says
So appreciative of the insights that come when we talk and share about creativity. It’s encouraging on a monday morning ๐
Alan Combs says
Thank you for all that you do!
Toria says
Really appreciate your e-mails/e-book/podcasts. Would love to be entered for the giveaway! As far as the question, “What did you enjoy the most about this interview with Ben Cantelon?”, I really enjoyed hearing the focus on WORSHIP- a lot of worship leads can get into a rut of complacency and pride. Not many will admit that it’s all about worshiping the Father and sharing their hearts. You can tell a true worship leader if they have the same attitude and same experience in worship whether they’re leading four people or four hundred.
Chris says
Its awesome to hear about other leaders vision and hearts. Not only do I enjoy the interviews but also the emails. The last email was right when i needed it. As someone who is stepping up to take on more of the worship leader role I often compare what I do to other worship leaders or peers. I know its all about me giving me best and my all but in the back of my mind the thought is always creeping around. There are times when I have stepped up and lead and my insecurities whisper for me to step back into the shadows and play bass or rhythm. Its amazing to me that I stumbled upon your blog around the time I really began to pursue Gods call to minister with my gifts of music and its been an inspiration. Truly we are a family with different strengths but looking to each other and helping each other pushes us towards completion of the goal. That goal could be just getting through three songs Sunday morning or writing new music buts its all for the Glory of God.
rebecca sechrist says
Can’t wait to listen to the album. Congrats Ben on the new baby. They keep ya busy! Excited about all the resources you mentioned that are available on worship centrals website. Gonna check them out. Thanks for the good advice.
Annie George says
I am encouraged by reading your blog. Indeed I have introduced you to others in the worship team and other worship leaders I know from other churches and seminary I teach. At church worship team take turns to share your blog as many do not have assess to computers.
You have great ideas. One thing I like is that they are practical I guess because you have tried them out .
Blessings
Annie
Phil Nelson says
Thanks David! Count me in for anything FREE!!!! =D
I have not been so encouraged and challenged at the same time by your emails, blogs, and your mentoring, God is blessing your life & ministry.